Fear God. He's very patient. One day, God will set things right. Add to Wish List Add to Compare. No fault is to be found with God; but, as to the world, This is vanity upon the earth, and again, This is also vanity, that is, it is a certain evidence that the things of this world are not the best things nor were ever designed to make a portion and happiness for us, for, if they had, God would not have allotted so much of this world's wealth to his worst enemies and so much of its troubles to his best friends; there must therefore be another life after this the joys and griefs of which must be real and substantial, and able to make men truly happy or truly miserable, for this world does neither. He maintains his patience, moreover, in spite of the moral burdens he carries that might otherwise cause him to act impetuously (v. 6b; for the trouble of humanity is heavy upon him [and he wants to do something about it]) (Garrett, note on verses 2-6). American King James Version; and read all of this psalm). No man has any power over the spirit. Wisdom can enable a person to avoid the kings wrath (Ecclesiastes 8:2-9), but it cannot enable him or her to understand fully why God deals with people as He does (Ecclesiastes 8:10-17). being much better than to fret at the prosperity of the wicked, We come now to the last part of the books third major section, which began in chapter 6, dealing with explaining and applying the plan of God in light of it seeming to be unfair. Please enter your email address associated with your Salem All-Pass account, then click Continue. [17] Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end. "Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun.". Wisdom strengthens the wise more than ten mighty men which are in the city. [1.] The mention of an oath to God may bring to mind the need to follow through on vows to God in Ecclesiastes 5. ASV 3:22 ) ( 5:18 ) ; Be the first to review this product. Wisdom helps people see the underlying meaning of things and teaches them that to act with pleasantness is better than to act with harshness (8:1). Yes, we have a lot of hard work to do. Proud member Nay, [3.] They should not spend weary days and sleepless nights puzzling over problems to which only God knows the answer (16-17). [20] For there is not a just man on earth, that does good, and sins not. Where the word of the king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What are you doing? Now because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil ( Ecclesiastes 8:11 ). God does care. American King James Version). drinking, and all manner of carnal deli Ecclesiastes 8:15 commended H7623 (H8765) enjoyment H8057 man H120 Keeping this in mind results in a deep and abiding reverence for Godloving and trusting Him while recognizing His supreme power and holiness (see Hebrews 12:28-29 Hebrews 12:28-29 [28] Why we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: ( Ecclesiastes 8:1-4 ). The Preacher is growing more and more confident about this joy. The Targum interprets it of the joy of the law; Many claim that the death penalty is an ineffective deterrent to capital crime today. _Who is as the wise man; and who knoweth the We should respect and follow that rule, with the benefits of doing so and the avoidance of an approach that will bring more troubles on us than would otherwise ensue. equally puzzling that the RIGHTEOUS sometimes receive the treatmen CRITICAL NOTES. It doesn't matter to God that I cheat. When the Pharaoh of the Exodus saw there was respite, he hardened his heart. Blue Letter Bible study tools make reading, searching and studying the Bible easy and rewarding. For in the multitude of dreams and many words there are also divers vanities: but fear you God. Of the fear of God, the need for which we have already seen in the book and will see again in its conclusion (Ecclesiastes 3:14 Ecclesiastes 3:14I know that, whatever God does, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God does it, that men should fear before him.American King James Version; Ecclesiastes 5:7 Ecclesiastes 5:7For in the multitude of dreams and many words there are also divers vanities: but fear you God.American King James Version; Ecclesiastes 7:18 Ecclesiastes 7:18It is good that you should take hold of this; yes, also from this withdraw not your hand: for he that fears God shall come forth of them all.American King James Version; Ecclesiastes 12:13 Ecclesiastes 12:13Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.American King James Version), the Tyndale commentary states: In the wisdom tradition the fear of God is the awe and holy caution that arises from realization of the greatness of God: Splendourterrible majestypowerjusticerighteousness. When I applied mine heart to know wisdom, and to see the business that is done upon the earth: (for also there is that neither day nor night seeth sleep with his eyes:) Then I beheld all the work of God, that a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun: because though a man labor to seek it out, yet he shall not find it; yea farther; though a wise man think to know it, yet shall he not be able to find it ( Ecclesiastes 8:16-17 ). I counsel thee to keep the king's commandment, and that in regard of the oath of God. And He is patient and merciful towards us as we struggle to walk in His ways, even despite our many and ongoing failures. and who knows the interpretation of a thing? The wicked go unpunished and, even when they are dead and buried, people still praise them for their achievements in life (9-10). Mirth - Better, Gladness, or joy (as in Ecclesiastes 2:10). What happens to one happens to the other. We must always remember just who we are dealing withand the awesome gravity of thatrealizing that this is for our ultimate good. of alter; for that shall abide with him of his labour the days [17] Be not over much wicked, neither be you foolish: why should you die before your time? The next set of verses concerns following kingly authorityhuman governmentas a matter of life and death (verses 2-9). He would not have us to be surprised at it, as though some strange thing happened, for he himself saw it in his days, Ecclesiastes 8:14; Ecclesiastes 8:14. Love the brotherhood. speaks in the person of the libertine, representing the objections of His estimate of the pleasures of the senses is recorded in Ecclesiastes 7:2-6. Who is as the wise man? O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever! . him from his labour. No man has any power over the spirit. reason to be thankful for what they had, and to lift up their Fear of the Lord is to depart from evil. They begin to scoff at it, even as Peter said they would. element of thought mingles with the higher fear of God, to which th FOR THAT SHALL ABIDE WITH HIM OF HIS LABOUR _And this shall borrow Solomon's pencil. Ecclesiastes 8:8. experience of a THEN I COMMENDED MIRTH,. Innocent mirth, a cheerfulness of spirit Thus wisdom here leads to proper caution and can sometimes result in influencing rulers toward positive change. I see life moving on. Ecclesiastes 8:14-15 meaning Although life is mysterious, Solomon has discovered by submitting to the God of Mystery, rather than trying to make sense of the world through human experience, he can enjoy and appreciate the best life has to offer. Article Images Copyright 2023 Getty Images unless otherwise indicated. There is futility which is done on the earth, that is, there are submission to things as they are. God puts up with so much. Solomon next mentions seeing the wicked buried (verse 10). This present life must be reckoned by days; this life is given us, and the days of it are allotted to us, by the counsel of God, and therefore while it does last we must accommodate ourselves to the will of God and study to answer the ends of life. Though a sinner do evil an hundred times, and his days be prolonged ( Ecclesiastes 8:12 ), Remember he was talking about how he saw that the ungodly man was living a long life, the righteous were dying young and the ungodly were living long. And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day. Prudence before kings (Ecclesiastes 8:1)_ that vanity to which man has been made subject EXPOSITION In Solomon's reign the people were very rich, and lived in prosperity, which perhaps made them proud and petulant, and when the taxes were high, though they had enough to pay them with, it is probable that many conducted themselves . That all of the talk of the rapture of the church and the return of Jesus Christ is just piped dreams, a misinterpretation of scriptures. 5:18; Ecclesiastes 9:7 To be merry This he speaks of sensual delights. Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Adam Clarke Bible Commentary, Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Albert Barnes' Bible Commentary, Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Annotated Bible by A.C. 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There is a vanity which is done upon the earth; that there be just men, unto whom it happens according to the work of the wicked; again, there be wicked men, to whom it happens according to the work of the righteous: so I said that this also is vanity ( Ecclesiastes 8:13-14 ). Of that Solomon is certain. And so I saw the wicked buried, who had come and gone from the place of the holy, and they were forgotten in the city where they had so done: this is also vanity ( Ecclesiastes 8:9-10 ). There is a serenity that comes with things starting to make senseand with trusting that God knows whatHes doing when things still dont. Verse 15. He doesn't strike immediately, but oftentimes forestalls judgment for months, for years. Eat, drink, and be joyful, for tomorrow we die! Let us pray that we may view eternal things as near, real, and all-important. To live a God-fearing life is to live in constant awareness of the presence of God, who is even closer than a prayer away (pp. That is all the fruit he has for himself of the pains that he takes in the business of the world; let him therefore take it, and much good may it do him; and let him not deny himself that, out of a peevish discontent because the world does not go as he would have it. There is no man that has power over his spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it ( Ecclesiastes 8:8 ). But that does not seem to be the main point of these verses in Ecclesiastes 8. And thus, it appears that the evil man is getting away with his evil actions, his evil deeds. It doesn't matter to God that I lie or I steal or whatever because look, I'm blessed. Same kind of experiences to both. better H2896 sun H8121 eat H398 (H8800) drink H8354 (H8800) merry This would also seem to tie in to the warning against turning to wickedness at the end of Ecclesiastes 8:8 Ecclesiastes 8:8There is no man that has power over the spirit to retain the spirit; neither has he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it.American King James Version. 2. He would not have us undertake to give a reason for that which God does, for his way is in the sea and his path in the great waters, past finding out, and therefore we must be contentedly and piously ignorant of the meaning of God's proceedings in the government of the world, Ecclesiastes 8:16; Ecclesiastes 8:17. He would have us to take occasion hence, not to charge God with iniquity, but to charge the world with vanity. The scope of these verses is to keep subjects loyal and dutiful to the government. Life under the sun. because a man hath no better thing under the sun than to The future is so uncertain. Others see ruach here as meaning wind, and take the statement to mean that just as the wind is beyond our control, so is death. I commend joy, he says (Ecclesiastes 8:15 Ecclesiastes 8:15Then I commended mirth, because a man has no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labor the days of his life, which God gives him under the sun.American King James Version), and the word he uses for commend is a Hebrew word for praise (shabach). Sinners herein deceive themselves. All this have I seen, and applied my heart to every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man rules over another to his own hurt. Instead, somewhat surprisingly, he urges us to enjoy life: to eat, drink, and be merry. The Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the So I know that in the long run that life is the best. Not so. We'll send you an email with steps on how to reset your password. for that shall abide with him of his labor the days of his life, which God gives him under the sun ( Ecclesiastes 8:15 ). CONCLUSION: Heavenly wisdom makes a man a good man,. [25] I applied my heart to know, and to search, and to seek out wisdom, and the reason of things, and to know the wickedness of folly, even of foolishness and madness: It seems that this lack of punishment encourages people to sin (11-12a). a DEATH OF THE WICKED. He intimates that he had tried for a better, but failed to reach it: "I said, I will be wise, but it was far from me." Notice that the Preacher is giving us a God-centered perspective and that in verse 15 he is talking about the days of our life as a gift from God. If moral evil is in view, perhaps the sense is becoming a civil lawbreaker. [23] All this have I proved by wisdom: I said, I will be wise; but it was far from me. [19] Wisdom strengthens the wise more than ten mighty men which are in the city. the preacher sets forth certain deductions. Ecclesiastes 8:15 teaches us to be joyful in all circumstances. I know that, whatever God does, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God does it, that men should fear before him. Still, we must not treat God flippantly or carelessly. ( Romans 9:20 ) The sovereignty of the king, which also speaks to the sovereignty of God. 3 Be not hasty to go out of his sight. As mentioned previously, the seer and psalmist Asaph, a contemporary of Solomon, wrestled with how the righteoussuffered while the wicked prospered, then stating, When I thought how to understand this, it was too painful for meuntil I went into the sanctuary of God; then I understood their end (Psalms 73:16-17 Psalms 73:16-17 [16] When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me; heads and be cheerful, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God in No! CHARACTERS: God, Solomon. Concerning this Solomon here gives us his advice. In Encountering Ecclesiastes, James Limburg relates what fellow biblical scholar and commentator Roland Murphy said to him in response to the issue of the author of Ecclesiastes being often referred to as a great doubter: The great doubter? For the time being we are subject to human rule. Placing them at t _Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the Solomon in Proverbs 10:7 Proverbs 10:7The memory of the just is blessed: but the name of the wicked shall rot.American King James Versionwrote, The memory of the righteous is blessed, but the name of the wicked will rot. Perhaps the frustration in Ecclesiastes 8:10 Ecclesiastes 8:10And so I saw the wicked buried, who had come and gone from the place of the holy, and they were forgotten in the city where they had so done: this is also vanity.American King James Versionis simply that the wicked were able to die and receive a proper burial after a long life without having to face up to what theyd doneall the while having been permitted in life to be regularly in Gods temple, a sacrilege and mockery of religion. and who knows the interpretation of a thing? Ecclesiastes 2:24; Ecclesiastes 3:12-13; Ecclesiastes 5:18-19). So, "Though a sinner do evil a hundred times, and his days be prolonged,". You can't escape it. physical senses, but also frequently to religious joy. Help for Today, Hope for Tomorrow| Learn more With a UCG.org account you will be able to save items to read and study later! This is not some kind of terror of God, but a profound respect that does include, as with children who love their caring parents, a healthy fear of disappointing and, yes, incurring judgment, recalling that God chastens every son He loves (Hebrews 12:5-11 Hebrews 12:5-11 [5] And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to children, My son, despise not you the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when you are rebuked of him: is simply that the wicked were able to die and receive a proper burial after a long life without having to face up to what they'd doneall the while having been permitted in life to be regularly in God's temple, a sacrilege and mockery of religion. But it is tragic when people misinterpret God's patience and God's kindness. Nevertheless, there is joy for us in the ordinary things of lifeeating, drinking, and sharing fellowship with the people of God (p. 198). Recall that chapter 5 was the first instance of direct exhortations in the booktelling us to be careful in our approach in coming to worship God, the One in whose hands our lives are and who can help us through the present difficulties. 2: vanitas vanitatum dixit Ecclesiastes vanitas vanitatum omnia vanitas. "I'm a prosperous cheat, so God is condoning my cheating. 19952023 All correspondence and questions should be sent to info@ucg.org. But this is not where things end. Honor the king.American King James Version). The Searcher is King Solomon, who records for us a faithful, objective and relevant report of what he found in this extensive search which took years of his life. Because to every purpose there is time and judgment, therefore the misery of man is great upon him. 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