Guns Listing ID: 704599Manufacturer: Mauser Importer: Mauser Model: Argentino 1891 Type: Rifle Action Type: Bolt Action Caliber / Gauge: 7.65 x 53 MM Finish: Blued Barrel Type: Single Grip Type: Wood .Click for more info Seller: Guns Dot Com Area Code: 866 $499.99 NEW THIS WEEK! Suitable only for short range hunting? The barrel flats bear the signature "von G . 06-02-2016, 06:47 PM. Apparently arsenal staff thought this D or Z marking sufficient at first, as rifle D 771 shows no other markings. PRE-WW2 1919 GERMAN MAUSER M98 1898 GEWEHRFABRIK DANZIG COMMERCIAL SPORTING RIFLE 8X57 OR 8X57JS. The Gewehr 88 was also sometimes made into very elegant sporting rifles by gunsmiths in Germany. And why, when Model 95s are prized by collectors, are Haenel-Mannlichers all but forgotten except for a few devotees of early custom rifles? I don't know about shooting threw the brush but personally I just think it would be a cool rifle to own. A place to discuss military surplus firearms collection and other C&R weapons. We're currently in the process of updating HideTV and you can access the new system and get more info below! I have acess to all kinds of equipment so unless I need something firearm specific I should have everything I'll need. A 9.3 x 57 would be a VERY cool large mammal thumper. If I could find a way to do it cheaply then I'm good to go but if I can't do the conversion to 9.3 myself or find a way to do it cheaply I may just have to stick with 8x57 (which isn't a bad caliber by any means, just not exactly what I want). ._1QwShihKKlyRXyQSlqYaWW{height:16px;width:16px;vertical-align:bottom}._2X6EB3ZhEeXCh1eIVA64XM{margin-left:3px}._1jNPl3YUk6zbpLWdjaJT1r{font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;border-radius:2px;display:inline-block;margin-right:5px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;vertical-align:text-bottom;white-space:pre;word-break:normal;padding:0 4px}._1jNPl3YUk6zbpLWdjaJT1r._39BEcWjOlYi1QGcJil6-yl{padding:0}._2hSecp_zkPm_s5ddV2htoj{font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;border-radius:2px;display:inline-block;margin-right:5px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;vertical-align:text-bottom;white-space:pre;word-break:normal;margin-left:0;padding:0 4px}._2hSecp_zkPm_s5ddV2htoj._39BEcWjOlYi1QGcJil6-yl{padding:0}._1wzhGvvafQFOWAyA157okr{font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;border-radius:2px;margin-right:5px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;vertical-align:text-bottom;white-space:pre;word-break:normal;box-sizing:border-box;line-height:14px;padding:0 4px}._3BPVpMSn5b1vb1yTQuqCRH,._1wzhGvvafQFOWAyA157okr{display:inline-block;height:16px}._3BPVpMSn5b1vb1yTQuqCRH{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-body);border-radius:50%;margin-left:5px;text-align:center;width:16px}._2cvySYWkqJfynvXFOpNc5L{height:10px;width:10px}.aJrgrewN9C8x1Fusdx4hh{padding:2px 8px}._1wj6zoMi6hRP5YhJ8nXWXE{font-size:14px;padding:7px 12px}._2VqfzH0dZ9dIl3XWNxs42y{border-radius:20px}._2VqfzH0dZ9dIl3XWNxs42y:hover{opacity:.85}._2VqfzH0dZ9dIl3XWNxs42y:active{transform:scale(.95)} LOEWES GEWEHR 88 - C53931 7.92x57mm Mauser; 5% blue, fair bore, good stock, 29'' barrel, MODEL 1888 COMMISSION RIFLE. If I get to the point where I'm spending more on building a sporter from an inferior design then I would just buying a new savage or building from a 98 mauser I'll have failed my goal. In 1886, fifteen years after their defeat by German forces in the Franco-Prussian War, the French Army introduced the new Lebel magazine rifle firing an 8mm high-velocity projectile propelled by the new smokeless powder. Making the world a better place to live in. I'll try to use the original barrel if possible (since a new barrel would be several times the cost of the entire rifle) and do most or all of the work myself. not so with the 88. same with triggers, scope mounts, safeties. if you are doing this to create a beautiful piece of art, then by all means use the action that is most appealing to your sensibilities. You are using an out of date browser. After these claims were found insupportable, Ahlwardt was sentenced to 4 months in prison for malicious falsehood.[3][4]. !. I'm thinking something like 8mm rem mag might even be a possibility. Haenel, the primary private contractor, developed a line of improved models ranging from nicely made to gorgeous - but never chambered in the higher intensity modern loads. The Karabiner 88 utilized a different bolt handle, which resembled those found on commercial sporting rifles. Rifles. The invention of smokeless powder in the late 19th century immediately rendered all of the large-bore black powder rifles then in use obsolete. Kyle you're fooling with a weapon contrived in black powder era and obselete by WW 1. It is sometimes described as a Mauser with Mannlicher features, and sometimes the reverse. It was a superior replacement using the same ammunition with a stronger powder charge. Examples of these usually show first-class workmanship and special features such as folding sights and altered bolt handles. The rifle retains a lot of the original finish with some spots of rust. Mauser Rifles and Pistols is also available to purchase in print. They are both finely made rifles, and some of the Haenels especially so. Learn how your comment data is processed. [15] These were likely intended for sale in South America, where use of the 757mm cartridge was widespread. 607 WTHeck Gewehr 88 sporter I stopped by Cabelas and beheld in the used rack a 90 percent-finished Gewehr 88 Commission reblued action with a what appears to be a new 7x57mm barrel. Because I am a rare hunter, I respect the wild game I hunt and under field conditions too much can go wrong even if the hunter is a skilled shot. @keyframes ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5{0%{transform:rotate(0deg)}to{transform:rotate(1turn)}}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq{--sizePx:0;font-size:4px;position:relative;text-indent:-9999em;border-radius:50%;border:4px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyTextAlpha20);border-left-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);transform:translateZ(0);animation:ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5 1.1s linear infinite}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq,._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{width:var(--sizePx);height:var(--sizePx)}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{border-radius:50%}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq._2qr28EeyPvBWAsPKl-KuWN{margin:0 auto} $58.00 + $10.00 shipping . Well, when I bought a beautiful Thieme & Schlegelmilch (Nimrod Gewehrfabrik brandname) Gewehr 88 sporter in 9x57, I was a tad doubtful of it ever Gewehr 88 Commercial Sporter On Way Back to Former Glory! That said, it sounds like you are adamant about using the 88 as a basis for a sporter. Trying to get barrel measurements for an older Ruger. The gun was said to be taken from a pile of guns to be burned in the middle of a village- so the sporterizing was done pre-war in Germany. In the U.S. Mauser it is generally called 8mm. The practical result was that the French rifle had greater accuracy and range, and needed cleaning much less often, giving French troops a tactical advantage over the German Army. Looks pretty neat. I'm doing it because I want to build a very cheap but unusual hunting gun. WWI German MG Kompanie Imperial Eratz Bajonett Notbajonett Gewehr 88 no k98. Although I have never been a big fan of the 857 there is absolutely nothing wrong with this cartridge as it is right up their with the ubiquitous 30-06. 50 caliber BMG I might think about taking a shot! For military collectors, the Gewehr '88 is almost a cult object, and while it has been widely written about, it is also widely misunderstood. The combined plants capacity was 60,000 rifles per month. From then on, many Gewehr 88 rifles were rechambered to fire the new 1903 pattern 7.9257mm Mauser cartridge becoming Gewehr 88 S rifles. These arent like the military Gewehr 88s where you can get by shooting regular 8x57js. for the round nose and 51,333 ft. lbs. let's say 2 years down the road you want a new stock with the turk, it's just a matter of what material and profile you like. This article appeared in the 2016 Gun Digest annual. I have a Gew 88 action that I am going to use for a European style sporting rifle conversion. Thread starter Son of Dorn; Start date Dec 6, 2019; Forums. Save my name and email to use for future comments. .s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);padding-top:5px}.s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f._19JhaP1slDQqu2XgT3vVS0{color:#ea0027} The invention of smokeless powder in the late 19th century immediately rendered all of the large-bore black powder rifles then in use obsolete. Share. for the pointed nose. In 1898 a Mauser design was adopted, the Gewehr 98, which was the culmination of a series of Mauser models in the 1890s. 14 watchers. I can't imagine that it would be easy, but Americans were making accurate rifles before 1800 - I bet you could do it too! These rifles when found as sporting arms are often known as the Mannlicher-Haenel or Schilling-Mannlicher, because the names of those manufacturers sometimes appear on them. I wouldn't recommend a modern, high-intensity cartridge in one of the old Mauser actions. Without it the front of the action and back of the barrel aren't supported and there is only one screw holding the entire thing to the stock! This began by adapting a Swiss design, resulting in the Patrone 88 or M/88 of 1888, an 8mm rimless "necked" cartridge (bullet diameter 8.08mm/.318 in) loaded with an 8.08mm (.318 in) 14.6 g (226 gr) round-nose bullet propelled by a single-base smokeless powder. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. It would be safer to poke a crack whore bear skinned that to put an 06 in a 88. 1888 Sporter C.G. Victorian-era British arms, accoutrements, and military history. The Gewehr 98 (abbreviated G98, Gew 98, or M98) is a German bolt-action rifle made by Mauser, firing cartridges from a five-round internal clip -loaded magazine. The materials, workmanship and finishing are comparable to fine, modern, custom rifles. I use Sellier & Bellot 196gr SPCE for hunting with my old Mausers and mil-surp for plinking and banging around practice. This made Germany's rifle, the Mauser Model 1871, obsolete due to its large and slow 11mm round propelled by black powder. 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The Gewehr 88 (commonly called the Model 1888 commission rifle) was a late 19th-century German bolt-action rifle, adopted in 1888. ; Greece/Turks) or/and when they were re-barrelled. Firearms manufactured at sterreichische Waffenfabriksgesellschaft /, harvnb error: no target: CITEREFWessels2000 (, preventing the barrel from directly contacting the stock, Revolutions and interventions in Hungary (191820), 857mm IS cartridge portrait Totgesagte leben lnger, Wild und Hund 11/2006, "ZEIT ONLINE | Lesen Sie zeit.de mit Werbung oder im PUR-Abo. Found this a minute ago, pretty sure it's a sporterized Gewehr '88 rifle. Some of them were modified to use the stripper clips used with the Gewehr 98 by milling a slot into the left side of the action and adding stripper clip guides on the top of the receiver. The same the prized Mannlicher Schonauer: it actually should be named Schlegemilch Schoenhauer cause it has nothing to be named Mannlicher. Through this slot projects a bar which retains the cartridges in place against the magazine spring's pressure. It was made for the pre-98 actions. Anyone know what TYSKT is, though? but for these why not use a turk kkale 8mm barrel, it needs to be modified a little to fit but will correct the diameter issues and make a good, unique, cheap, brush gun. Everything good and modern occurred after that, they believe, and nothing much before. provided the existing twist rate worked for the final product. A Kar 88 barrel is 19" long, so if it is longer than that, it may have been rebarreled. One like yours one with a claw mounts scope. ._3K2ydhts9_ES4s9UpcXqBi{display:block;padding:0 16px;width:100%} Now yer makin sense!!! Check out the original cartridge box on the 2nd page. The jist of the discussion was using the existing rifeling as a guide. do yourself a favor and buy a Turk mauser (k.Kale if you can) for about a hundred bucks and shoot it. The front band served also as sight guard. Just got my RTI luger in, paid $2000, did I get a good RTI is due to start selling Luger Pistols soon. #5937; 8x57 in sporter condition receiver is Erfurt 1890 dated. Golf and guns (but cattle pay the bills)

And I'm still waiting for my well to come in, guns (duh, ya think? The 1888 in all its forms was extensively converted, after being discarded by the German Army, to use as a sporting rifle. Jump to content. (Antique) Excellent condition! Ahlwardt accused Loewe of being a spy for France, and denounced the rifle as a Judenflinte ("Jews' musket"). I seem to recall an ad in Shotgun News for a VCR tape demonstrating how to build a rifling machine. Steyr M1893 rumanian and netherland mannlichers are just german 1888 with very minor modifications: barrel jacket removed, added rib on the bolt for better smoothness and slightly different ejector. Nice commercial 88 sporting rifle they were manufactured until right after WW1. There are lots of Mauser 98s out there at minimal cost. For sporting purposes, the most significant by far was the German Commission rifle of 1888. Not familiar with the Enfields as After just over 2 years of collecting Milsurp rifles, I Chauchat aesthetic. This brings us back to the two major reasons there is only minor collector interest in these rifles. Nice website of John Robb's M1888/05. ._3-SW6hQX6gXK9G4FM74obr{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;width:16px;height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px} About 5,500 Gewehr and Karabiner 88s were delivered to the Lithuanian Army in 19191920 (granted by Germany and sold by France and the UK). Haven't slugged the bore but am sure it will be the .318 J bore. i have an old mauser in awesome shape could someone help me learn more about it. Well if you are talking 600 yard shots that the average hunter with his low skill level that has no business taking then the answer is yes. Gewehr 88/05 rifles were also used by Yugoslavia,[6] Czechoslovakia (for example as modified guard shotgun),[7] and Poland. It is sometimes described as a Mauser with Mannlicher features, and sometimes the reverse. The maximum operating pressure for the Gewehr 88 commission rifle is less than that of any 8mm Mauser rifle, as the makers of the Gewehr 88 did not fully understand the greater energy of smokeless powder compared to black powder. I'd be curious to see some pictures of the scope and markings on it. Sie haben die Wahl", "Bro strzelecka polskiego wojska w wojnie polsko-bolszewickiej", "Karabin i karabinek Mannlicher-Mauser wz.1888", "Firearms of the Irish Civil Wars: Part 2 the Republicans: their Unionist opponents had a much better quantity and variety of arms, but the Republicans put theirs to a lot more use", "M1913 Mannlicher Gew88 Austro Hungarian Rifle", "Brazilian military rifle cartridges part 2: Steyr vs. Mauser and fn wins! they are not rare. Ends: Thursday, November 3 | 9:49 AM Central. If you're going to reload and be buried with it, maybe. I agree that a 9.3x57 Gew 88 would be a very cool and unique sporter but on the other hand I'm still wondering if it is really worth putting a $200+ barrel on a $30 gun. Since you are a machinest perhaps you can figure this out. It should feed well (not sure about length) and I don't think the pressure would be excessive with moderate loads. Any idea where I could get a 9.3x57 barrel (not too spendy!)? All these plants were under the financial control of Loewe. $795.00 Compare MITCHELL'S MAUSERS 98K - C52673 STOCK IS IN GOOD CONDITION SHOWING DINGS, SCRATCHES. This rifle has a 29" barrel and strong rifling with frosting in the grooves. Generally now known as Haenel-Mannlichers, these German bolt-action rifles were not cheap. I also have a Turk converted 88 I bought in the 70's for 30 or 35 bucks. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. JavaScript is disabled. While the majority were chambered for the standard military 857 cartridge (usually the original .318 bullet, rather than the later .323) they were also offered in pure hunting cartridges like the 957. How can I get the barrel rebored for 9.3 bullets? In general the Chamber Pressure is listed at 21-tons per sq. 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If you anyone has any suggestions on how I could modify the existing 8x57 barrel to 9.3 I'd love to hear them! ._2Gt13AX94UlLxkluAMsZqP{background-position:50%;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-size:contain;position:relative;display:inline-block} The Scope is a Russian PEM Sniper scope, it isn't uncommon to see them used on sporterized German rifles. The first, of course, is the lack of a famous name such as Winchester. Three forms of carbines were made in quantity in the Model 1888. In response the German Army's Rifle Testing Commission developed the Gewehr 88 which was adopted for service in 1888. All are great shooting rifles with the properly configured ammo. ._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} In the 1902 Sears catalog, the price was $24.50. He is a regular contributor to the annual Gun Digest and has won the Gun Digest John T. Amber Literary Award.
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